Greg to Joe
Week 3 brought a weird set of games. A lot of things did not go as expected, there were some dominant performances that I did not expect. The Ravens stomped on the Texans and spoiled Ed Reed‘s first game as a Texan. I really don’t think the Texans are that good (I have the Colts winning that division), but I did not expect the debacle that happened yesterday. I think the 49ers are in trouble. Colin Kaepernick might be as good as everyone says he is if he has good receivers. He is no Brady, or Flacco all things considering, when it comes to making his receivers productive. If the 49ers lose Boldin or Vernon Davis for an extended period of time, they must run the ball more or they will lose like they did to the Colts. It was frustrating to watch because the Colts could have been dominated at the line of scrimmage if the 49ers made a commitment to running the ball. Now the 49ers are in trouble going into St. Louis without Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis and maybe Vernon Davis. Giants’ and Steelers’ offensive lines are so bad that those teams might be horrendous all year. The Giants got dominated by a Panthers defense, while good, should have never dominated a game like that. Eli is on his back too much and unable to throw the ball to his talented receivers.
Finally, I get to go to Seattle this week, and I am excited to see if there is a lot of Seahawk pride out there. That team is the class of the NFL. I know they played the Jaguars this week, but there starters came out of the game in the 4th quarter. Now that the 49ers lost to the Colts, I am not sure that win in Week 2 was as impressive, but it was still a dominant win. I wish the Seahawks had the Thursday night game and it was at home. I bet I would be able to hear that stadium from my hotel room it is so loud.
Anything you notice from Week 3 and how are you looking going into MNF for fantasy?
Joe to Greg
You’re right when you say that things did not go as expected. There were some dominant performances (Ravens over Texans, Colts over 49ers, Panthers over Giants) and some competitive games (Dolphins-Falcons, Browns-Vikings, Bengals-Packers). Quickly going over some of the dominant performances, I think people tend to forget that Colin Kaepernick’s sixteenth game of his NFL career, or one full complete 16-game season, came last week. He’s still learning and developing but it seems like defenses are starting to figure out ways to slow him down. Defenses started covering using man to man, forcing Kaepernick to make reads in the pocket and make him a little less mobile. Once again I’ll say it, watch out for the Miami Dolphins. They came back against Matty Ice and the Falcons and have a huge game against the New Orleans Saints coming up on Monday Night. The Colts also look poised to become a contender but even Andrew Luck said after the game they aren’t going out to make statements. The Giants are having all sorts of issues, whether that is in on the defensive side or offensive side. They managed just 150 yards of total offense. The Ravens got a big win against a confusing Texans team that always seems to have trouble with injuries or sub-par player performances when they start playing well.
Week 3 was a tough week with the spreads in my opinion. Let me tell you, Green Bay owes a lot of people some money because they blew the lead in Cincy and it hurt. Really, really bad. Which reminds me that I won our head-to-head matchup on DraftStreet and I also won in another 10 team league paying out 1st-5th. Thank you, Drew Brees…who I started for both of my teams. In Yahoo Fantasy, I registered my first win regardless of the outcome of tonight’s game and in ESPN I’m winning by 18, but my opponent has Darren McFadden left so it could be close.
Joe’s Fantasy Seasons Through Week 3:
ESPN: What Would Breesus Do — 3-0
Yahoo: Daaa Brady’s — 1-2
Monday Night Pick:
Denver 34 – Oakland 17
Any thoughts on tonight’s game and who your top performers for Week 3 were?
Greg to Joe
You won this week on DraftStreet so its 1 and 1. Carson Palmer really screwed me. He is also going to screw me in Yahoo if Welker scores another TD in this MNF game and Demaryius Thomas doesn’t. I should easily be 3-0, but there is a small chance that I lose to Gerdes this week. We’ll see what happens as this game goes on. Dan is going to beat me this week in Chris’s ESPN league. It is REALLY depressing when something like that happens. It just really hurts.
I do have Jordan Cameron EVERYWHERE. I love it. I also have Gronk in the Yahoo league. My team is just straight up stacked. It’s shocking I haven’t scored the most points in the whole league one week.
I was positive betting this week again. After going below .500 in my picks, I been good the past two weeks and this week would be thanks to the Ravens and the Bears.
I agree with you on the Dolphins. I called a late game win for them in my weekly BucStop.com fantasy corner article. I was wrong about my disappointing dud, but who’s counting. I still agree with the process of picking my selections. My surprise selection wasn’t as good as I expected, but the Cardinals’ running backs were the only players to put up points for them this week.
I am going to change it up with a baseball thing. First, the Pirates are in the postseason. First winning season in 21 years. Incredible. Andrew McCutchen is my favorite not named Mike Trout or Manny Machado so I’m happy for him.
It was really hard to watch the Machado injury. The Orioles were out of the playoffs, barring a miracle. He was giving all is effort to beat out a grounder after he saw Tim Beckham bobble it. His left knee just gave out. I doubt he plays until 2015. His left knee is the knee that must withstand all the torque he creates from his swing, and he can’t risk reinjuring by coming back early next year. The only excuse would be if the Orioles really need him to make a final playoff push and the doctors give him a 100% go ahead. However, I can see a Derrick Rose-esque situation happening. We’ll see, but I want to hear what exactly is wrong tomorrow after the MRI.
Back to the NFL, early look to Week 4, who ya got ATS?
Joe to Greg
I’m glad to hear that the Machado injury wasn’t too serious. Hopefully it’s a speedy recovery. In Week 4 there are some interesting games. I’m intrigued by the Colts -9 in Jacksonville. High off their win in San Francisco and a little more chemistry among the offense and Trent Richardson, It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Colts cover here. Also, Seattle -3 at Houston makes me think. Houston just came off a terrible loss to the Ravens. Seattle just pounced on the Jaguars and their starters did play in the 3rd quarter. I think Seattle’s D wants another challenge or rather the challenge of preparing for the Texans sometimes potent offense. Any last notes on the upcoming week ahead? Should we expect a good showing from the Ravens traveling up to Buffalo?
Greg to Joe
I was happy about the Machado injury. He will most likely not need surgery and he will be just fine for the upcoming season. I doubt that he breaks out offensively like many people are hoping, but that should come in 2015, the year he returns to shortstop (I hope).
My opinion on the Vegas lines this week is this… If there was ever a week to try to hit on a full slate teaser, this would be that week. I feel there are a lot of favorable lines right now. The Bears as an underdog is absolutely foolish. The fact that the Ravens are only 3 point favorites is also pretty easy bet. The Bills have an injury depleted roster, and the Ravens just took the Texans to town last week. With Ray Rice coming back, I see no problems for them. The hardest game for me this week would be the 49ers @ Rams. The 49ers have serious problems on offense if they don’t get Vernon Davis back. They could just go with the running game and hope Frank Gore gives a DeMarco Murray type day against the Rams. The 49ers are also going to be in trouble without Patrick Willis. He is the Ray Lewis presence in the middle of that defense and he makes everyone in that defense around him better. I can see this being an extremely high scoring game or low scoring game. I can also see a Rams blowout, a 49ers blowout, or a close game where the team who has less turnovers wins. I am lost on that game, which will make it more interesting for me to watch.
The last thing I want to say before I hear your thoughts on the Pats and just Week 4 in general is Arian Foster is not the same running back. His yards per carry continue to drop and Ben Tate‘s have been about double Foster’s. I would be starting to shy away from calling him an elite player. I could be wrong, but I think we are about to see a fall of the table decline much like Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, etc.
Joe to Greg
To add to your list, LaDainian Tomlinson towards the end of his career. I think you touched on something important because one of the biggest issues and something that made headlines this summer was the settlement reached between the NFL and the NFLPA. The settlement has agreed to pay out $765 million over 20 years. That is an incredible amount of money. Then you add the fact that the NFL’s annual revenue peaks around $10 BILLION, does that settlement do anything? The reason behind bringing this up is because players are getting bumps and bruises earlier in their career and I don’t think there is a position that gets banged up more than running backs. Arian Foster is on a decline but that doesn’t mean he can’t change that. The only problem is his body may limit the competitive level he can reach. Tate has nine rushing attempts in each of the first 3 games so there is something to say about how much Houston utilizes him.
I’ve been pretty patient on talking about the Patriots and I’m going to remain sealed about my feelings for them. Mainly because I don’t want to judge when all the pieces aren’t there. Also because they have a big game coming up Sunday Night which may be nominated for my “Game of the Week” column later this week.
Greg Danchik and Joe Meola
(Side Note: This trip to Seattle is awesome, but has very little to do with sports. There is a whole sports biomechanics session tomorrow. Mostly about concussions, but there are some presentations about Ligaments. And that’s why this is up late.)